While I was never a fan of Voyager (in fact I often hoped upon hope that it would just crash and that would be the end of it), I loved the Intrepid class. There was just something about it that really struck me. In fact, it was the ship that kept me watching!
Imagine a flotilla of these getting torn up on blockade-runner duty. Man, why does my imagination always run to the overly violent battle sequences? Those guys at scifi-meshes.com messed me up…
Oh! That’s nice!! Has a sort of lonely feel to it as the ship looks out over the great distance it has to cross before the crew inside can return home.
dssstrkl- that’s a neat article. Looks like those Vulcan ringed ships weren’t so far off…
Never a fan of the show, but always liked the Intrepid. It looked like an explorer to me; never did really buy two things about Voyager- a former science officer was Tuvok’s Captain and handler for his spy mission, and why instead of saying “we must get home” the Captain didn’t say “let’s see what’s out there”? Trek to me was about going out, not coming back- and coming back was Voyager’s whole premise. JMHO…
Well I guess that if they would get destroyed along the way or lost and never to be found, it wouldn’t be a glorious way to end ! Anyway the shot is absolutely stunning and looks better than most of the sci-fi movies I have seen even after Voyager has ended ! It looks like the image is already post-processed, unlike the earlier ones. I don’t think that the Voyager was rendered in HD so is this shot just single-frame render of the animation ?
Oh but then again I didn’t watch that many episodes from Voyager so it may be just an extra image did by the VFX guys …
Dan – Hearing the words warp bubble used seriously just gets my geek going. arxiv.org has a lot of physics papers on warp theory. It makes for some interesting reading, even if the math gets a little scary, at least for a bio guy like me! It even has the paper that started it all: http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0009013
My dislike of Voyager has everything to do with the characters. I couldn’t stand Janeway or Tuvok from the beginning. That, and I thought there should have been a lot more tension between the Marquis and the Starfleet people. At least the Marquis should have been more, I don’t know, roguish? I understand why the ship couldn’t get all dirty and banged up (at least before they made a cgi Intrepid), but man, those people were just anemic at best.
This was always one of the great Starfleet designs. Thanks to Ian’s comment above, I fired up my animation program, plopped in 3 low-res Intrepids, and am currently doing an animation of them facing off against a low res Klingon fleet.
Beautiful render (of course!) but I would have kicked the camera out to the right a bit to score a larger view of Voyagers profile. Voyager’s a gorgeous model of course but check that planet out! – I wouldn’t even know where to start as far as making worlds go!
dssstrkl – The canvas that is the Star Trek universe a vast and beautiful (or beautifully vast?) place, It’s good that you can find some joy in there somewhere. But I fail to follow where you’re going with regards to your opinions of our heroes in Voyager though! I know they’ve dropped the ball on occasion (what show doesn’t though?) with episodes like “Spirit Folk” and “Threshold” but how can you sit through episodes like: “Year of Hell”, “Timeless”, “Dark Frontier”, “Endgame”, “All episodes about the Doctor!”, “Scorpion”, “Warlord”, “Equinox”, “Meld”, “Counterpoint” (all off the top of my head peeps!) and say that these characters are anaemic?
Stu – Janeway and Tuvok rubbed me the wrong way from the very beginning. I just can’t stand them. The Marquis became perfect Starfleet officers right away. They (especially the former Starfleet people) should never have accepted wearing Starfleet uniforms, nor should Janeway have offered. Uniforms are important and I felt they were given and accepted with no thought to their meaning or history. That’s also discounting the real tension that should have existed between the two crews. The Marquis really should have been more upset over Janeway sacrificing their ship. I felt that the writers and producers of Voyager had absolutely no respect for military or organizational culture and history, nor for the history and balance of power in Trek. The fact that the same people were responsible for all that was bad in Enterprise speaks volumes.
It may sound harsh, but I thought that Voyager and Enterprise had an enormous amount of squandered potential. While Ent’s last season made up for the first three (minus the first and last episodes of course), Voyager’s finale showed just how little respect the producers had. It was like playing a video game with god mode on. As much as I enjoy the effects and design, I will never consider Voyager to be anything other than a fourth-rate show with a first-rate budget.
dssstrkl – “Fourth-rate show with a first rate budget” – Slick line; I’ll have to remember that one and plagiarise it at some point!
Fair enough, I see your point with respect to the Maquis/Starfleet divide on Voyager which had been made into some kind of big deal in the pilot and then covered with top soil pretty much right away. These freedom fighters were supposed to add tension to the neat and tidy Starfleet officers yet it was hardly ever touched upon.
I agree that some of the less malleable members of the Maquis should have been a bit narked at the loss of their ship but they should really be spilling their anger towards Chakotay, not Janeway; he was piloting the thing at the time and he was the one who came up with the kamikaze plan to take out that Kazon ship! – And he was right. The Maquis Raider is small and totally inadequate for a journey of 70,000 light years!! The Maquis should thank their respective gods that Voyager turned up or it really would have been one shitty trip home at what, less than Warp 6? – They’d have given up!
Although… If we remember who the Maquis are and why they were fighting in the first place: They’re Federation citizens who were defending their homes from the Cardassians. Sure enough the Maquis should be eternally disgruntled at the Federation Council for essentially giving their territory away to the Cardies but the Maquis crew shouldn’t really have that much of a quarrel with 150 Starfleet officers who for all intents and purposes possess the only ship heading towards the Alpha Quadrant; why should the Maquis create tension here? There are no Cardassians within 70,000 light years to fight (alright Seska but she was outed!), many of these freedom fighters are former Starfleet officers and Voyager is a Federation ship desperately trying to get home – Sounds like a reasonably sweet deal for the Maquis considering the circumstances!
The lack of respect towards military history and traditions you touched upon has come up on Drex Files before and I said something similar back then: Starfleet is not the Army, or the Navy or the Air Force; it’s a completely separate entity committed to the exploration of space that just happens to acknowledge every other page of the manual on military codes of conduct. You might as well be saying ‘Oh the Air Force doesn’t run their show right because that’s not how Starfleet does it!’
In fact if it was this sort of thing putting you off Enterprise at least in the beginning I would have thought the arrival of the MAKO’s in Season 3 would have pulled you back; essentially these were a group of soldiers dedicated to more militaristic practises brought on board to fill a requirement that Starfleet had been too naive to think Enterprise needed when they first sent the ship out.
And… And… And… I actually thought Voyagers finally was coool!!! Yeah the story ended 20 minutes early with no kiss goodbye but it was cool!
Well, I don’t want to rehash old arguments about the pros and cons of Voyager, but one thing that always saddens me is seeing the main titles. IMO, they’re the best of Star Trek’s opening montages and really capture the wonder and spectacle of space, but I don’t feel like this was reflected in the content of the episodes enough. Too often the story seemed to revolve around Tom and Harry’s adventures in the holodeck, or something similarly immature. Not that I think Trek has to be super duper serious or anything, TOS’s humour was part of its charm, but what really made it exciting and inspiring to watch was that it got straight to the cut and thrust of a wild, imaginative adventure. They didn’t spend 15 minutes of every episode showing Sulu and Chekov working on a new holoprogram they were going to use to chat up the ship’s twins.
Anyway, I like the pic. That big canyon on the planet looks interesting.
j, I absolutely love the opening of Voyager the moving music (and timpanis that reached to my soul) and stirring visuals. I enjoyed the series and even appreciated Tom’s joy of all things mechanical and classic sci fi. But occasionally I think it went a bit overboard. Overall, there was a pretty good balance of survival spirit, morality tales, cool new aliens and fun.
Sometimes, like with this photo, Voyager feels so small and alone. I’d like to think that I would have the fortitude and courage to strike out on a fantastic voyage for home. Where’s she headed next…well we’ll just have to find out as we go! I thought it was great the way literally anything could happen! Love the Hirogen and Species 8472 and many others.
I hadn’t weighed in on Voyager, so I thought it was time.
Stu – I’m not going to continue because its clear that we both have strong, well-thought out opinions that just happen to be rather opposing. I’m just glad we were able to have a back and forth that stayed friendly and respectful. Its refreshing to bounce ideas without degenerating into a flame war!
One thing we clearly agree on: the Intrepid class really is a great design. The Voyager opening credits in particular was a work of art, more so than any of the other series.
While I was never a fan of Voyager (in fact I often hoped upon hope that it would just crash and that would be the end of it), I loved the Intrepid class. There was just something about it that really struck me. In fact, it was the ship that kept me watching!
Great shot!
Oh yeah, speaking of eye candy, have you seen this yet? http://gizmodo.com/5292471/this-is-how-a-warp-drive-spaceship-looks
I’ve always thought the Intrepid class was just about perfect. Thanks, Doug!
Watching Voyager for the first time back in the day, I was blown away when it went to warp, those nacelles folding in close.
Neatness squared!
Imagine a flotilla of these getting torn up on blockade-runner duty. Man, why does my imagination always run to the overly violent battle sequences? Those guys at scifi-meshes.com messed me up…
Thanks for the love a@@ shot of a great ship, Doug! I always enjoyed Voyager, the ship and the series.
Oh! That’s nice!! Has a sort of lonely feel to it as the ship looks out over the great distance it has to cross before the crew inside can return home.
dssstrkl- that’s a neat article. Looks like those Vulcan ringed ships weren’t so far off…
Never a fan of the show, but always liked the Intrepid. It looked like an explorer to me; never did really buy two things about Voyager- a former science officer was Tuvok’s Captain and handler for his spy mission, and why instead of saying “we must get home” the Captain didn’t say “let’s see what’s out there”? Trek to me was about going out, not coming back- and coming back was Voyager’s whole premise. JMHO…
Well I guess that if they would get destroyed along the way or lost and never to be found, it wouldn’t be a glorious way to end ! Anyway the shot is absolutely stunning and looks better than most of the sci-fi movies I have seen even after Voyager has ended ! It looks like the image is already post-processed, unlike the earlier ones. I don’t think that the Voyager was rendered in HD so is this shot just single-frame render of the animation ?
Oh but then again I didn’t watch that many episodes from Voyager so it may be just an extra image did by the VFX guys …
Dan – Hearing the words warp bubble used seriously just gets my geek going. arxiv.org has a lot of physics papers on warp theory. It makes for some interesting reading, even if the math gets a little scary, at least for a bio guy like me! It even has the paper that started it all: http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0009013
My dislike of Voyager has everything to do with the characters. I couldn’t stand Janeway or Tuvok from the beginning. That, and I thought there should have been a lot more tension between the Marquis and the Starfleet people. At least the Marquis should have been more, I don’t know, roguish? I understand why the ship couldn’t get all dirty and banged up (at least before they made a cgi Intrepid), but man, those people were just anemic at best.
Awesome picture!!!!
Love the picture.
Wish they’d have featured the aft crew lounge during the show as the windows look similar in size and shape to the mess hall windows.
Also is it me or does it look like Voyager’s port impulse engine is offline?
This was always one of the great Starfleet designs. Thanks to Ian’s comment above, I fired up my animation program, plopped in 3 low-res Intrepids, and am currently doing an animation of them facing off against a low res Klingon fleet.
That’s just purdy. Love the simplicity and quietude of its composition.
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Beautiful render (of course!) but I would have kicked the camera out to the right a bit to score a larger view of Voyagers profile. Voyager’s a gorgeous model of course but check that planet out! – I wouldn’t even know where to start as far as making worlds go!
dssstrkl – The canvas that is the Star Trek universe a vast and beautiful (or beautifully vast?) place, It’s good that you can find some joy in there somewhere. But I fail to follow where you’re going with regards to your opinions of our heroes in Voyager though! I know they’ve dropped the ball on occasion (what show doesn’t though?) with episodes like “Spirit Folk” and “Threshold” but how can you sit through episodes like: “Year of Hell”, “Timeless”, “Dark Frontier”, “Endgame”, “All episodes about the Doctor!”, “Scorpion”, “Warlord”, “Equinox”, “Meld”, “Counterpoint” (all off the top of my head peeps!) and say that these characters are anaemic?
“Lightyears To Go, Before We Sleep”
But we’ll leave the light on….
The DC
dssstrkl- Many thanks for the follow link. I look forward to trying to understand it!
Stu – Janeway and Tuvok rubbed me the wrong way from the very beginning. I just can’t stand them. The Marquis became perfect Starfleet officers right away. They (especially the former Starfleet people) should never have accepted wearing Starfleet uniforms, nor should Janeway have offered. Uniforms are important and I felt they were given and accepted with no thought to their meaning or history. That’s also discounting the real tension that should have existed between the two crews. The Marquis really should have been more upset over Janeway sacrificing their ship. I felt that the writers and producers of Voyager had absolutely no respect for military or organizational culture and history, nor for the history and balance of power in Trek. The fact that the same people were responsible for all that was bad in Enterprise speaks volumes.
It may sound harsh, but I thought that Voyager and Enterprise had an enormous amount of squandered potential. While Ent’s last season made up for the first three (minus the first and last episodes of course), Voyager’s finale showed just how little respect the producers had. It was like playing a video game with god mode on. As much as I enjoy the effects and design, I will never consider Voyager to be anything other than a fourth-rate show with a first-rate budget.
dssstrkl – “Fourth-rate show with a first rate budget” – Slick line; I’ll have to remember that one and plagiarise it at some point!
Fair enough, I see your point with respect to the Maquis/Starfleet divide on Voyager which had been made into some kind of big deal in the pilot and then covered with top soil pretty much right away. These freedom fighters were supposed to add tension to the neat and tidy Starfleet officers yet it was hardly ever touched upon.
I agree that some of the less malleable members of the Maquis should have been a bit narked at the loss of their ship but they should really be spilling their anger towards Chakotay, not Janeway; he was piloting the thing at the time and he was the one who came up with the kamikaze plan to take out that Kazon ship! – And he was right. The Maquis Raider is small and totally inadequate for a journey of 70,000 light years!! The Maquis should thank their respective gods that Voyager turned up or it really would have been one shitty trip home at what, less than Warp 6? – They’d have given up!
Although… If we remember who the Maquis are and why they were fighting in the first place: They’re Federation citizens who were defending their homes from the Cardassians. Sure enough the Maquis should be eternally disgruntled at the Federation Council for essentially giving their territory away to the Cardies but the Maquis crew shouldn’t really have that much of a quarrel with 150 Starfleet officers who for all intents and purposes possess the only ship heading towards the Alpha Quadrant; why should the Maquis create tension here? There are no Cardassians within 70,000 light years to fight (alright Seska but she was outed!), many of these freedom fighters are former Starfleet officers and Voyager is a Federation ship desperately trying to get home – Sounds like a reasonably sweet deal for the Maquis considering the circumstances!
The lack of respect towards military history and traditions you touched upon has come up on Drex Files before and I said something similar back then: Starfleet is not the Army, or the Navy or the Air Force; it’s a completely separate entity committed to the exploration of space that just happens to acknowledge every other page of the manual on military codes of conduct. You might as well be saying ‘Oh the Air Force doesn’t run their show right because that’s not how Starfleet does it!’
In fact if it was this sort of thing putting you off Enterprise at least in the beginning I would have thought the arrival of the MAKO’s in Season 3 would have pulled you back; essentially these were a group of soldiers dedicated to more militaristic practises brought on board to fill a requirement that Starfleet had been too naive to think Enterprise needed when they first sent the ship out.
And… And… And… I actually thought Voyagers finally was coool!!! Yeah the story ended 20 minutes early with no kiss goodbye but it was cool!
Err… Yeah… Read that to say: “Voyagers finale!” (foolish boy)
Well, I don’t want to rehash old arguments about the pros and cons of Voyager, but one thing that always saddens me is seeing the main titles. IMO, they’re the best of Star Trek’s opening montages and really capture the wonder and spectacle of space, but I don’t feel like this was reflected in the content of the episodes enough. Too often the story seemed to revolve around Tom and Harry’s adventures in the holodeck, or something similarly immature. Not that I think Trek has to be super duper serious or anything, TOS’s humour was part of its charm, but what really made it exciting and inspiring to watch was that it got straight to the cut and thrust of a wild, imaginative adventure. They didn’t spend 15 minutes of every episode showing Sulu and Chekov working on a new holoprogram they were going to use to chat up the ship’s twins.
Anyway, I like the pic. That big canyon on the planet looks interesting.
j, I absolutely love the opening of Voyager the moving music (and timpanis that reached to my soul) and stirring visuals. I enjoyed the series and even appreciated Tom’s joy of all things mechanical and classic sci fi. But occasionally I think it went a bit overboard. Overall, there was a pretty good balance of survival spirit, morality tales, cool new aliens and fun.
Sometimes, like with this photo, Voyager feels so small and alone. I’d like to think that I would have the fortitude and courage to strike out on a fantastic voyage for home. Where’s she headed next…well we’ll just have to find out as we go! I thought it was great the way literally anything could happen! Love the Hirogen and Species 8472 and many others.
I hadn’t weighed in on Voyager, so I thought it was time.
Stu – I’m not going to continue because its clear that we both have strong, well-thought out opinions that just happen to be rather opposing. I’m just glad we were able to have a back and forth that stayed friendly and respectful. Its refreshing to bounce ideas without degenerating into a flame war!
One thing we clearly agree on: the Intrepid class really is a great design. The Voyager opening credits in particular was a work of art, more so than any of the other series.