Beautiful kit bash, Judy!
I’ve managed to pull together a modeler’s dream coverage of this well liked member of the “Frankenstein Fleet”. We have your coordinates, and are locked on to you. Energize!
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Thank you!
She s certainly no beauty but now we finally know what the model actually looked like from other angles.
Two questions: one, the last pic can´t be downloaded, two, what is the ship whose tail(?) we see in the sideview shot, right infront of Elkins?
The model looks like it’s falling apart any minute. As if all parts are rejecting each other. I wonder if the Starfleet officers who had to board this one had the same thoughts.
Here’s that last pic: http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/bash-fleet14.jpg
It kind of slipped out of the nice content div and underneath the comment box.
What do you mean, no beauty!? If you imagine this with era-appropriate nacelles and smooth out that connecting bit between the dual keels, you end up with a pretty interesting ship.
Now.. any guesses as to what those keels actually are? Two deflectors seems unlikely.. massive subspace sensors? Some kind of weird extra warp nacelles? Big giant guns?
What a SHOCKER!!
Disengage!
Mark
Thanks Harry!
Something to be jettisoned I think, it almost looks like they´re attached to some kind of platform.
What makes me like this ship so much is its similarity to Rick Sternbach’s original concepts for Voyager (which I preferred over the finished article in some ways). She could scrub up really well if given a bit of care and attention, or made as an updated CG model. Kinda like people were talking about with the Yeager. Just take the over all proportions and shapes and make a ship that looks like it was designed in one go, rather than being made of old and new spares.
I like this ship.
I love that fact that it got a double secondary hull.
When I was younger I used to desgin ships using bit of the Conni, most of them would have a double seconday hull.
These Frankenstein Fleet ships, they have something of a ragtag, dare I say, fugitive quality about them.
That last pic makes the ship look very “feminine” if you get my meaning.
Wow, Doug, thanks! I particularly like the shot of the models together… is that the Frederickson there with the Elkins and the Centaur?
[b]Harry, Starship Freak[/b] – Those look like cargo containers. To me at least.
^^ I´m more fascinated by the two Galaxy models and the Centaur (too bad you guys had to kitbash the latter instead of having the time to build her from scratch and make her even more intriguing).
Dougie my man! Thank you for posting these! Now I can finally complete my model with confidence.
BTW Doug, thanks again for posting all this reference material and also for giving some personal insight into the day in day out workings of Star Trek, it’s very much appreciated.
I think the ship looks cool but you shoudnt forget these ships were never intended to be seen as close like this the ships had to be ready for the start of ds9 season 6 as part of the beeten fleet i think with some time these designs can look amazing and as model builder i wouls like too show you what i mean i currently working on a Centaur and a Curry
So Doug if you have some pictures pleace post them
Thanks
I look at the Elkins and, for whatever reason, I think “Medical cruiser”. I think it’s the double hulls. I envision a ship that darting in and out of the fight, grabbing escape-pods and beaming people off crippled ships, then running back out and offloading to a large Medical ship or outpost.
I might be in the minority, but there’s very few of the Frankenstein fleet that I don’t like.
Interesting. Any reason we see the more prominent multi-colored pastel paneling/paint-jobs on a lot of the Franken-Fleet, Doug? Is that so they don’t just end up as indistinguishable grey blobs in the far backgrounds per chance?
Thanks!
LLP,
deg
Considering the extreme desaturation of those shots …
“What makes me like this ship so much is its similarity to Rick Sternbach’s original concepts for Voyager (which I preferred over the finished article in some ways).”
JPearse, I completely agree with you. I liked Rick’s study model far better than the “Lexus-ified” final model we got (Although I will say that I wasn’t overly thrilled with the upscaled runabout pylons, which on the Elkins looks right at home with the other mishmash of parts).
As for the Elkins, I’m of the school who actually likes this model, although I really wish Judy had used runabout nacelles instead of Constitution ones. They just stick out like a sore thumb.
I want to know what the duel secondary hulls actually are? Are they the engines/exhaust off of a military jet? The back ends of those things definitely look like they are exhaust ports.
Someone clue me in what episode of what show this “frankenfleet” you refer to is in? I’m missing something here badly.
This ship would look at home on BSG, flying right next to Astral Queen.
It is nice to see this ship in all it’s various angles. Definitely a nice study.
Those look to be f-14 intake and engine housings (mounted backwards). With the connecting piece running down the middle. The angle of the intake housings in the bottom pic make me say F-14 vs F-15. Though I could be wrong it could be a mig or something lol.
They are painted to show up on video. None of these are hero ships so they are done up to be seen as a few scanlines in the bg of someone’s tv. Because I can tell you back when these were on my tube tv I didn’t notice the funky colours.
Im shocked in some ways on all the little details seen on these the Judy being the most prominent IE thin lines and decals. Clashing parts do give me gas, but if you just look at the rough shapes and mentally change the distinguishing trek parts to a more era specific design. Some of these could work as hero designs. I do like that one in the BG with the red warp grils.
IIRC EAS identified it as a Tomcat fuselage although the 14 and 15 share a lot of basic details.
At last! A twin secondary hull! Sure a twin saucer can’t be far behind, or even, my pride and joy… http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/passengerliner_baywatch.jpg
(I was young and stupid. I’m not young anymore)
I think i saw something like this pass me up on the 10 freeway the other morning.
You modelers do get creative…which IS the pathway to genius.
Nice to see those Frankenstein ships up close. Bernd did identify the parts correcty, the secondary hull is made out of the main fuselage of a F-14 Tomcat, minus cockpit section. As far as I can tell, two AIM-51 Phoenix rails made their way to the upper side of the secondary hull and came to rest to the sides of what would be the hangar deck on the Voyager.
What’s interesting – they made those parts stick together without the use of any putty, at least as far as I can tell.
Cheers
Thorsten
I was just about to say — IS THAT A BACKWARDS F-14 FUSELAGE?
As much flexibility as CGI affords, old-school kitbashing will remain to me the ultimate form of spaceship creation.
Syd – Have you ever CG kit bashed?
Amazing. I didn’t even notice it had two secondary hulls! With one, it looks almost silly. With two, it looks like a heavy bomber, like it can carry enough photons to take out a planet.
What’s the part at the endabove the secondary hulls? It sorta look like an A-Wing from Star Wars.
Thanks for the awesome pics! If you happen to come across any more of the model that was used for the USS Centaur (that’s the one made from Excelsior parts in the background of the group shot) I’d love to know what the name on it is (because it isn’t Centaur).
This (along with the Yeager) has long been on my “good outline, but needs a facelift” short-list.
Wow. Thanks for the amazing model pics- a modeler’s dream.
A few years back I built an (1:2500th scale) Elkins as a challenge and fell in love with the ship.
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2210/657989/1755600/20768963.jpg
Since then Stephen Loftus ahs also built an amazing recreation of the ‘ol girl.
Those dual deflectors could have been a great anti-borg gag.
That is an F-16 model in there, right?
Considering what this ship model is made out of, it does come together remarkably well.
I am curious about the twin-hulled structure; I wonder if she might be a fuel carrier, with deuterium and/or antideuterium supplies stored in the cylindrical hulls.
Their frontpieces might be deflectors, but there is a deflector on the Intrepid-style primary hull which is probably up to the task of keeping the ship safe during flight, so perhaps they could be oversized collectors to help the ship gather and refine more fuel? Just an idea.
Thanks as always for posting more on these obscure models!
@FSL
I think what looks to you like an A-Wing must be the upper part of the F-14 fuselage, the area just behind the cockpit.
Now if madness would really start to kick in, by now I would be dragging out my F-14 literature to see if the fuselage came from an F-14A or F-14D…. just checked it, the area which could give us a clue has been cut of the fuselage.
Cheers
Thorsten
Th end of the ship (what used to lead to the F-14 cockpit) screams for a landing pad like on Voyager- where else ya gonna place a shuttlebay?
You know, if this had the Voyager-test model nacelles, it’d be a fan favorite.
Hmm… One navigational deflector can dish out serious damage to a Borg ship (unless there’s a traitor onboard), but will itself be harmed in the process. So how about a ship that has two, plus the auxiliary dish on top of the spoon hull? Weaponized deflectors!
I vote for the Elkins to be built to carry two of the Offensive NAviGational EmitteR superweapons devised by Starfleet as an anti-Borg measure, but subsequently found useful against other kilometers-wide, unmaneuvering targets (such as Dominion space fortresses), too…
Is this Model really been used in an episode? which scene? that one?
That would sure give the Enterprise J a massive potential for defense- imagine what that deflector could do…
Starfleet Planetkiller beam! LOL!
I dig the Elkins as a big beam-emitter- possibly two deflectors gives a second shot or allows a wider energy spectrum to be covered.
Doug, I love seeing this stuff!
I never knew before that anyone else used the f-14 as part of a ship; thought I was the only one:
http://members.cox.net/amberwolf/Sketches/Amber_II_over_GNoenIst.jpg
http://members.cox.net/amberwolf/CGI/Amber_II_(Attacked_on_patrol).JPG
http://members.cox.net/amberwolf/Sketches/Epriser_ten_sketch.jpg
The last one was inspired by Star Blazers, way back when I was in grade school or highschool–late 70’s or early 80’s, I think.
I’ve actually built physical models of all of those, back before I got into CGI, but I doubt many parts of them still exist after several moves.
More related stuff:
http://members.cox.net/amberwolf/
Thanks for the sketches, Mike! keep it up!
No offense to the model maker, but that’s an abomination! I really don’t know why pointless kitbashed models like this were used on the show instead of designs that were actually good, like the original Voyager study model or the Centaur (yes, it’s a kitbash I know. At least it actually looks good though)