Comments on: USS Hutzel – Deep Space – Deep Background http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/ My Two Decades of Working on Star Trek Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:17:14 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Robert Minnes http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-18365 Robert Minnes Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:30:21 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-18365 …And here you can find a professional modeller’s interpretation of the Hutzel were it ever meant to be a hero-model (Model built by Stephen L)… http://msfm.seryan.com/stephen_l/ussaquarius.htm …And here you can find a professional modeller’s interpretation of the Hutzel were it ever meant to be a hero-model (Model built by Stephen L)…

http://msfm.seryan.com/stephen_l/ussaquarius.htm

]]> By: Tom Pohl http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-9409 Tom Pohl Thu, 14 May 2009 23:54:48 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-9409 As far as the orientation of the "Hutzel" is concerned, I believe it would be single-nacelle down based on the fact that the Starfleet delta logo on the double nacelle strut is upside down. The thicker part of the delta is always at the top of the logo. I think it looks better in the single nacelle down orientation anyway. As far as the orientation of the “Hutzel” is concerned, I believe it would be single-nacelle down based on the fact that the Starfleet delta logo on the double nacelle strut is upside down. The thicker part of the delta is always at the top of the logo. I think it looks better in the single nacelle down orientation anyway.

]]> By: deg http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-6003 deg Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:47:25 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-6003 AH, too cool eh. Ya know, I don't mean to sound chauvinistic (as I'm NOT in the least, quite the opposite really), but it always amazes to see a girl who likes to build models, esp. pracs, and sci-fi ones to boot. Good for Judy! :) And that's the first time I ever heard that word: Wizardess. Thanks for sharin' Doug! :D LLP, deg AH, too cool eh. Ya know, I don’t mean to sound chauvinistic (as I’m NOT in the least, quite the opposite really), but it always amazes to see a girl who likes to build models, esp. pracs, and sci-fi ones to boot. Good for Judy! :)

And that’s the first time I ever heard that word: Wizardess.

Thanks for sharin’ Doug! :D

LLP,
deg

]]> By: Scottish Andy http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-1518 Scottish Andy Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:19:26 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-1518 This site is an awesome find, thanks to Bernd for showing me the way! A question for you Doug though, about the orientation of the "USS Hutzel": Is it meant to be 2 (nacelles) down, 1 up as shown in your pics, or (hopefully) 1 down, 2 up? I've drawn up a complete class history for this curiously compelling (to me at least) design, which has the third nacelle added on much later into the ship's career and has the original design as an "upside-down" Miranda type in Excelsior components. You can find my history with pics here: http://www.starbase23.net/Shipyard-Fed-Scorpio.html if you're interested enough. Bernd, I totally disagree with you that this is the ugliest Trek ship. The Curry/Shelly or Elkins atrocities are much further up the list! :D Along these same lines, could anyone from the production crew enlighten me as to the *intended* size of the USS Centaur? Contrary to Bernd, I'm going for a 210m escort-type based on the Miranda bridge and photorp pod and the relative sizes of the Centaur vs the 110m-long Jem'Hadar fighter from the actual ep. This site is an awesome find, thanks to Bernd for showing me the way! A question for you Doug though, about the orientation of the “USS Hutzel”:

Is it meant to be 2 (nacelles) down, 1 up as shown in your pics, or (hopefully) 1 down, 2 up?

I’ve drawn up a complete class history for this curiously compelling (to me at least) design, which has the third nacelle added on much later into the ship’s career and has the original design as an “upside-down” Miranda type in Excelsior components. You can find my history with pics here: http://www.starbase23.net/Shipyard-Fed-Scorpio.html if you’re interested enough.

Bernd, I totally disagree with you that this is the ugliest Trek ship. The Curry/Shelly or Elkins atrocities are much further up the list! :D

Along these same lines, could anyone from the production crew enlighten me as to the *intended* size of the USS Centaur? Contrary to Bernd, I’m going for a 210m escort-type based on the Miranda bridge and photorp pod and the relative sizes of the Centaur vs the 110m-long Jem’Hadar fighter from the actual ep.

]]> By: moeskido http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-1115 moeskido Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:14:54 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-1115 I like how some of the paint jobs make it look as though these ships were rushed through construction to get them battle-ready. I like how some of the paint jobs make it look as though these ships were rushed through construction to get them battle-ready.

]]> By: Eric http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-1108 Eric Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:46:18 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-1108 Sweet. Very sweet. Especialy the USS Elkins. The shot that show the underside is very useful. Sweet. Very sweet. Especialy the USS Elkins. The shot that show the underside is very useful.

]]> By: dougdrexler http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-1105 dougdrexler Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:27:34 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-1105 I'm guessing Gary built it :) Elkins=Elkins - Doug I’m guessing Gary built it :) Elkins=Elkins
- Doug

]]> By: Bernd Schneider http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-1104 Bernd Schneider Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:17:46 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-1104 Well, naming the ugliest ship in Star Trek for Gary Hutzel is not really flattering... Anyway, nice photos once again! It now becomes clear for the first time that there are actually two F-14 hulls on the Elkins model. Regarding the colors, my first impression was that the model that Judy Elkins is holding does not yet have the very colorful paint job. But while it may be still a work in progress (is that masking tape on the part of the deflector/jet engine that should be golden?), these seem to be the final colors indeed. I think they only look different because the photo was taken with a flash light. On the question why they were painted in such strange colors in the first place, my idea is that the models were always supposed to appear in the background, and some exaggerated contrast improvement would help to make contours recognizable from a distance. Well, naming the ugliest ship in Star Trek for Gary Hutzel is not really flattering…

Anyway, nice photos once again!

It now becomes clear for the first time that there are actually two F-14 hulls on the Elkins model.

Regarding the colors, my first impression was that the model that Judy Elkins is holding does not yet have the very colorful paint job. But while it may be still a work in progress (is that masking tape on the part of the deflector/jet engine that should be golden?), these seem to be the final colors indeed. I think they only look different because the photo was taken with a flash light.

On the question why they were painted in such strange colors in the first place, my idea is that the models were always supposed to appear in the background, and some exaggerated contrast improvement would help to make contours recognizable from a distance.

]]> By: Harry http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-1096 Harry Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:44:56 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-1096 The cord for the lights (these kitbashes had working lights!?) seems to go into the hull from the side with two nacelles. Seeing as you'd probably want to hide that on film, I'd reckon that would be the underside. That is also, IIRC, how the DS9 Tech Manual depicts it. Some fans have taken to calling it the [i]Medusa[/i]-class, which is an apt name, IMO. If you were to push me for an in-universe justification for its looks, I'd say top speed courier/light cruiser. The cord for the lights (these kitbashes had working lights!?) seems to go into the hull from the side with two nacelles. Seeing as you’d probably want to hide that on film, I’d reckon that would be the underside. That is also, IIRC, how the DS9 Tech Manual depicts it.

Some fans have taken to calling it the [i]Medusa[/i]-class, which is an apt name, IMO. If you were to push me for an in-universe justification for its looks, I’d say top speed courier/light cruiser.

]]> By: JNG http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/uss-hutzel-deep-space-deep-background/comment-page-1/#comment-1076 JNG Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:38:41 +0000 http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/?p=2601#comment-1076 I'm finally posting here...I feel like I already know almost everyone else I see in the comments here, as it's pretty much the all-stars of the fan community (plus a pro here and there). This is my new favorite website and the best thing to happen to Trek on the web in, oh, a good ten years or so. Thanks to Doug Drexler! Aside from the self-intro, a question: which side was really supposed to be the "top" of the Hutzel? Was it the single nacelle or the pair? The use of two Excelsior-type saucer tops, apparently complete with bridge modules, to build it has left me guessing at the intended alignment. I won't make an assumption from the way it looks in these photos, since balancing it on its one nacelle to take pictures of it posed the other way was probably not practical ;) Also wanted to note the Playmates toy ships visible above and behind Mr. Adam Buckner. :D I’m finally posting here…I feel like I already know almost everyone else I see in the comments here, as it’s pretty much the all-stars of the fan community (plus a pro here and there). This is my new favorite website and the best thing to happen to Trek on the web in, oh, a good ten years or so. Thanks to Doug Drexler!

Aside from the self-intro, a question: which side was really supposed to be the “top” of the Hutzel? Was it the single nacelle or the pair? The use of two Excelsior-type saucer tops, apparently complete with bridge modules, to build it has left me guessing at the intended alignment. I won’t make an assumption from the way it looks in these photos, since balancing it on its one nacelle to take pictures of it posed the other way was probably not practical ;)

Also wanted to note the Playmates toy ships visible above and behind Mr. Adam Buckner. :D

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